Bus ticket from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon

Find the best bus tickets from 8 bus operators for your Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon trip

: 29 trips daily

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Last Updated: 10/07/2025

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Hoàng Long Hải Vân

2.3

(188 ratings)

Standard sleeping bus

BigC Thanh Hoa

29h30m

An Suong Bus Station

When I got to the bus, I realized it was Hoang Khoa bus, not Hoang Long! But everything was fine! The driver and service staff were polite and courteous! Not rude and insolent like other Hoang Long buses when going from Saigon to Hanoi.

NO PREPAYMENT REQUIRED

Hoàng Long (Đỏ)

4.5

(313 ratings)

Standard sleeping bus

Thanh Hoa (along National Route)

31h15m

Mien Dong Bus Station (Gate No.4)

Cleanliness

Safe driving

Bed is comfortable. The staff is cheerful and enthusiastic, whatever the passengers want 😆. Professional drivers drive safely. The car is clean and has a very convenient charging socket in the bed. The car runs on time and is arranged in the right place as booked. Score 10 for the red dragon 👍

An Bình (Thái Bình)

(80 ratings)

Limousine seater bus

Thanh Hoa (along National Route)

29h10m

An Suong bus station (HCMC)

The app updates the arrival time so that passengers do not miss their work. The estimated time of arrival is 8:40 but it is not until 15:30 that the bus staff and driver arrive. The bus company staff and driver are very enthusiastic and friendly.

NO PREPAYMENT REQUIRED

Huy Cường

(4 ratings)

Standard sleeping bus

Big C Supermarket, Thanh Hoa

28h30m

Nga Tu Ga Bus Station

I get carsick but the first time I saw a bus, I didn't smell any gasoline at all. It was very comfortable. Surprisingly, the bus company provided meals along the way for all passengers. For the round trip in a few days, I will still choose Huy Cuong bus because the ticket price is only 800k, cheaper than other bus companies.

Bus tickets from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon: 29 trips

TOP 5 prestigious, high-quality and luxury bus from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon 07/2025

🚌 1. Hoang Long (Do) bus : High-quality Thanh Hoa Sai Gon bus
🚌 2. Huy Cuong bus : High-quality Thanh Hoa Sai Gon bus
🚌 3. An Binh (Thai Binh) bus : High-quality Thanh Hoa Sai Gon bus
🚌 4. Hoang Long Hai Van bus : High-quality Thanh Hoa Sai Gon bus
🚌 5. Thanh Nhan - Hai Phong bus : High-quality Thanh Hoa Sai Gon bus

Frequently asked questions for your Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon bus trip
Bus service from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon
Route introduction Sai Gon from Thanh Hoa

1. Quality and reviews of Thanh Hoa Sai Gon bus / coach companies
2. The bus / coach fares from Sai Thanh Hoa - Sai Gon
3. Different types of Sai Gon - Thanh Hoa buses:

Bus/Coache Fares and Schedules/Timetables From Sai Gon to Thanh Hoa
What is the fastest and most prestigious way to book a bus ticket to Sai Gon - Thanh Hoa from Sai Gon?
Book bus tickets Tet 2026 from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon

Frequently asked questions for your Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon bus trip

Question: How to get from Sai Gon to Thanh Hoa ?

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Question: How to book bus/coach tickets from Sai Gon to Thanh Hoa ?

Answer: You can purchase Sai Gon to Thanh Hoa bus/coach tickets by the secure, simple and fast way with the best price on Vexere.com

Question: How do I find cheapest bus tickets price from Sai Gon to Thanh Hoa ?

Answer: Thanks to Vexere.com, you can compare buses and find lowest bus ticket prices for your trip from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon – at one glance, you can check the bus schedules/timetables, bus fares, reviews and what features and services are offered on the bus

Question: Which bus operators on Sai Gon to Thanh Hoa bus route are popular and highly rated as vip, luxury bus with hiqh-quality, premium bus amenities?

Answer: Popular bus companies on Sai Gon to Thanh Hoa highly rated as the VIP, luxury bus with hiqh-quality, premium bus amenities are Hoang Long (Do), Huy Cuong, An Binh (Thai Binh) bus. See the full list: Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon bus

Question: How much does it cost to travel from Sai Gon to Thanh Hoa by bus?

Answer: The bus ticket price from Sai Gon to Thanh Hoa varies depending on the types of bus that you choose. It ranges from 850.000VND - 1.450.000VND.

Question: Which Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon bus has the best price?

Answer: The cheapest / minimum bus fare to Sai Gon from Thanh Hoa has the price of 850.000 VND from Huy Cường bus. See the full list: Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon bus

Question: Is the Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon bus e-ticket in smartphone or tablet acceptable?

Answer: After you book your bus ticket from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon online with Vexere, you will receive your ticket in your e-mail. E-tickets in smartphone or tablet are acceptable when you book on Vexere.com. Follow the instruction at Vexere.com

Question: How many bus providers run from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon?

Answer: Up to now, there are 5 brands of bus companies operating on the Thanh Hoa Sai Gon route. See the full list: Bus from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon.

Question: How long does it take to travel by bus from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon?

Answer: The journey Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon takes on average 29.9 hours if the road is quite favorable.

Question: What is the distance to travel by bus Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon?

Answer: Travel distance from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon by bus is about 1452 km.

Question: How many bus trips Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon daily?

Answer: The average Sai Gon Thanh Hoa bus route has about 29 trips per day on Vexere.com starting from 540 to 2300 pm by about 5 bus companies operating. : Hoang Long (Do), Huy Cuong, An Binh (Thai Binh), Hoang Long Hai Van, Thanh Nhan - Hai Phong

Question: Which bus from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon has the earliest departure time?

Answer: Sai Gon Thanh Hoa bus bus trip (including seater, limousine, sleeper) has the earliest time of departure at 5:40 and belongs to An Bình (Thái Bình) bus.

Question: Which bus from Thanh Hoa Sai Gon has the latest departure time?

Answer: Thanh Hoa Sai Gon bus trip (including seater, limousine, sleeper) has the latest departure time at 23:00 and belongs to Hoàng Long Hải Vân bus.

Question: Which Thanh Hoa Sai Gon bus company is considered to be of the best quality, vip bus service?

Answer: The Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon bus company has a bus with premium, high-quality service is bus Hoang Long (Do) from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon with a quality score of 4.4/5 based on 278 customer reviews.

Question: Is there any ideal bus for couple from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon?

Answer: Currently, there is no bus companies with a bus to Thanh Hoa Sai Gon for couples ..

Question: Is there any vip, luxury sleeping bus from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon?

Answer: Currently, there are 5 Thanh Hoa Sai Gon bus companies have vip, luxury sleeping bus for couples, including Huy Cường, Thành Nhân - Hải Phòng, Hoàng Long Hải Vân, An Bình (Thái Bình), Hoàng Long (Đỏ), ... In which, Huy Cường bus is the sleeper bus Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon which is highly reccomended by many customers with 3.4/5. The price of this type of bus ticket from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon of Huy Cường bus is 850,000 VNĐ.

Question: Is there any cabin sleeper bus from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon?

Answer: Currently, there is no bus company that has a vip, high-class sleeper bus to Thanh Hoa Sai Gon

Question: What are the payment options I can use for online bus ticket booking to Sai Gon from Thanh Hoa on Vexere.com

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Bus service from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon
Distance	1452 km
Time takens	29.9 hours
Average Price	1.150.000 VNĐ
Number of buses	29 trip
Total Operators	5 companies

TOP 5 prestigious, high-quality and luxury bus from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon 07/2025

🚌 1 Hoang Long (Do) bus : High-quality Thanh Hoa Sai Gon bus

a. Introduction of Hoang Long (Do)

The Hoang Long (Do) bus is a reputable unit, specializing in providing passenger and cargo transportation services on the route from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon. With the motto of safety first, Hoang Long (Do) bus from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon always focuses on investing in upgrading service quality, helping passengers have the most comfortable experience throughout the journey.

b.Hoang Long (Do)'s image

Xe Hoang Long (Do) : Xe đi Sai Gon chất lượng cao từ Thanh Hoa

c. Departure and arrival time of Hoang Long (Do) bus to Sai Gon from Thanh Hoa

Departure time in Thanh Hoa: 10:30, 11:15, 11:45, 14:45, 16:45, 21:15, 21:45
Arrival time in Sai Gon: 16:24, 17:09, 17:39, 20:39, 22:39, 03:09, 03:39
Time for Hoang Long (Do) bus to ride to Sai Gon from Thanh Hoa is about: 29.9 hours

d.Hoang Long (Do) bus pick-up points

Thanh Hóa (dọc Quốc Lộ 1A)
Big C Thanh Hoá

e. Hoang Long (Do) bus drop-off points

Bến Xe Miền Đông (Cổng số 4)
Bến xe Miền Đông Mới
VP Sài Gòn

f. Hoang Long (Do) bus fares from Sai Gon from Thanh Hoa

sleeper 1100000đ/ticket

g. Review the quality of Hoang Long (Do) bus

Hoang Long (Do) bus is rated with an average score of 4.4/5 based on 278 reviews of customers who have experienced this bus company's service.

h. Information of Hoang Long (Do) companies

Hoang Long (Do) bus office at Thanh Hoa:

Check Hoang Long (Do) bus office address https://vexere.com/en-US/hoang-long-do-bus
Phone number for booking bus tickets Thanh Hoa Sai Gon: 1900 888684

🚌 2 Huy Cuong bus : High-quality Thanh Hoa Sai Gon bus

a. Introduction of Huy Cuong

The Huy Cuong bus is a reputable bus company, with many years of experience operating on the route from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon. The bus company owns a fleet of new vehicles, which are regularly maintained and technically checked, ensuring the safety of passengers. Besides, the space inside Huy Cuong bus from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon is also clean, giving passengers a comfortable experience.

b.Huy Cuong's image

Xe Huy Cuong : Xe đi Sai Gon chất lượng cao từ Thanh Hoa

c. Departure and arrival time of Huy Cuong bus to Sai Gon from Thanh Hoa

Departure time in Thanh Hoa: 16:30
Arrival time in Sai Gon: 22:24
Time for Huy Cuong bus to ride to Sai Gon from Thanh Hoa is about: 29.9 hours

d.Huy Cuong bus pick-up points

Big C Thanh Hoá

e. Huy Cuong bus drop-off points

Bến xe Ngã Tư Ga

f. Huy Cuong bus fares from Sai Gon from Thanh Hoa

sleeper 850000đ/ticket

g. Review the quality of Huy Cuong bus

Huy Cuong bus is rated with an average score of 4.0/5 based on 4 reviews of customers who have experienced this bus company's service.

h. Information of Huy Cuong companies

Huy Cuong bus office at Thanh Hoa:

Check Huy Cuong bus office address https://vexere.com/en-US/huy-cuong-bus
Phone number for booking bus tickets Thanh Hoa Sai Gon: 1900 888684

🚌 3 An Binh (Thai Binh) bus : High-quality Thanh Hoa Sai Gon bus

a. Introduction of An Binh (Thai Binh)

When mentioning bus companies from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon, many tourists will immediately remember An Binh (Thai Binh) bus. This bus operator is highly appreciated by passengers in the area for the quality of the bus and the service attitude of the staff. With many years of operation on this route, An Binh (Thai Binh) bus from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon is always the top choice of many passengers when looking for transportation.

b.An Binh (Thai Binh)'s image

Xe An Binh (Thai Binh) : Xe đi Sai Gon chất lượng cao từ Thanh Hoa

c. Departure and arrival time of An Binh (Thai Binh) bus to Sai Gon from Thanh Hoa

Departure time in Thanh Hoa: 05:40, 05:41
Arrival time in Sai Gon: 11:34, 11:35
Time for An Binh (Thai Binh) bus to ride to Sai Gon from Thanh Hoa is about: 29.9 hours

d.An Binh (Thai Binh) bus pick-up points

Thanh Hóa (dọc Quốc Lộ 1A)

e. An Binh (Thai Binh) bus drop-off points

Bến xe An Sương
Cổng Bến xe Miền Đông Mới

f. An Binh (Thai Binh) bus fares from Sai Gon from Thanh Hoa

sleeper 950000đ/ticket
seater 1450000đ/ticket
limousine 950000đ/ticket

g. Review the quality of An Binh (Thai Binh) bus

An Binh (Thai Binh) bus is rated with an average score of 4.0/5 based on 80 reviews of customers who have experienced this bus company's service.

h. Information of An Binh (Thai Binh) companies

An Binh (Thai Binh) bus office at Thanh Hoa:

Check An Binh (Thai Binh) bus office address https://vexere.com/en-US/an-binh-thai-binh-bus
Phone number for booking bus tickets Thanh Hoa Sai Gon: 1900 888684

🚌 4 Hoang Long Hai Van bus : High-quality Thanh Hoa Sai Gon bus

a. Introduction of Hoang Long Hai Van

Hoang Long Hai Van bus from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon is a bus operator that is very popular with domestic and foreign passengers. With many years of serving passenger transport, Hoang Long Hai Van bus always understands and constantly improves every day to bring customers the most outstanding services. Accompanying the Hoang Long Hai Van bus will surely make you satisfied.

b.Hoang Long Hai Van's image

Xe Hoang Long Hai Van : Xe đi Sai Gon chất lượng cao từ Thanh Hoa

c. Departure and arrival time of Hoang Long Hai Van bus to Sai Gon from Thanh Hoa

Departure time in Thanh Hoa: 12:00, 14:00, 19:00, 21:00, 23:00
Arrival time in Sai Gon: 17:54, 19:54, 00:54, 02:54, 04:54
Time for Hoang Long Hai Van bus to ride to Sai Gon from Thanh Hoa is about: 29.9 hours

d.Hoang Long Hai Van bus pick-up points

Thanh Hóa - BigC

e. Hoang Long Hai Van bus drop-off points

Bến Xe An Sương
HCM - Cổng Bến Xe Miền Đông Mới
Ngã 4 Bình Phước ( 834 quốc lộ 13)

f. Hoang Long Hai Van bus fares from Sai Gon from Thanh Hoa

sleeper 900000đ/ticket

g. Review the quality of Hoang Long Hai Van bus

Hoang Long Hai Van bus is rated with an average score of 2.3/5 based on 188 reviews of customers who have experienced this bus company's service.

h. Information of Hoang Long Hai Van companies

Hoang Long Hai Van bus office at Thanh Hoa:

Check Hoang Long Hai Van bus office address https://vexere.com/en-US/hoang-long-hai-van-bus
Phone number for booking bus tickets Thanh Hoa Sai Gon: 1900 888684

🚌 5 Thanh Nhan - Hai Phong bus : High-quality Thanh Hoa Sai Gon bus

a. Introduction of Thanh Nhan - Hai Phong

Thanh Nhan - Hai Phong bus is one of the leading bus companies operating on the route to Sai Gon from Thanh Hoa . With its current position, the bus operator is constantly improving and bringing new bus lines to best meet the needs of customers. Thanh Nhan - Hai Phong bus from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon uses 100% luxury, new buses. Fully equipped with modern facilities with battery charger, power socket, air conditioner, television, reclining chair,... and free towels, wet filtered water according to the bus.

b.Thanh Nhan - Hai Phong's image

Xe Thanh Nhan - Hai Phong : Xe đi Sai Gon chất lượng cao từ Thanh Hoa

c. Departure and arrival time of Thanh Nhan - Hai Phong bus to Sai Gon from Thanh Hoa

Departure time in Thanh Hoa: 11:12
Arrival time in Sai Gon: 17:06
Time for Thanh Nhan - Hai Phong bus to ride to Sai Gon from Thanh Hoa is about: 29.9 hours

d.Thanh Nhan - Hai Phong bus pick-up points

Thanh Hóa

e. Thanh Nhan - Hai Phong bus drop-off points

Bến xe Miền Đông

f. Thanh Nhan - Hai Phong bus fares from Sai Gon from Thanh Hoa

sleeper 870000đ/ticket

g. Review the quality of Thanh Nhan - Hai Phong bus

Thanh Nhan - Hai Phong bus is rated with an average score of 2.2/5 based on 19 reviews of customers who have experienced this bus company's service.

h. Information of Thanh Nhan - Hai Phong companies

Thanh Nhan - Hai Phong bus office at Thanh Hoa:

Check Thanh Nhan - Hai Phong bus office address https://vexere.com/en-US/thanh-nhan-hai-phong-bus
Phone number for booking bus tickets Thanh Hoa Sai Gon: 1900 888684

Route introduction Sai Gon from Thanh Hoa

1. Quality and reviews of Thanh Hoa Sai Gon bus / coach companies

The best bus / coach Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon has a quality classification based on a customer rating from 1 to 5 {1: worst, 5: best} with criteria such as: bus quality, Punctuality, Quality service on Vexere.com. This review is written directly by customers who have experienced the bus companies Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon.

Quality of Thanh Hoa Sai Gon bus is rated with an average score of 3.2/ 5 reviewed by 569 passengers. In which, the best bus company from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon is rated 4.4/5 by 278 is Hoang Long (Do).

2. The bus / coach fares from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon

Currently, according to the latest update of Vexere.com, the bus ticket price to Sai Gon from Thanh Hoa ranging from 850000 VND - 1450000 VND. In which, Huy Cường has the cheapest bus ticket price, only 850000 VND. Book genuine Thanh Hoa Sai Gon at Vexere.com for the affordable price, reserved seats are 100% guaranteed and free ticket exchange support. Call 1900 888684. for free consultation, booking and exchange of tickets. .

3. Different types of Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon buses:

Limousine bus Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon (or limousine van) with 9 seat have convenient, luxurious interior

This is a 9-seat limousine bus (limousine van) modified from a 16-seat bus Thanh Hoa Sai Gon. Interior is reworked with European standard leather seats, not only smooth for a long journey, but also cool and not as secretive as normal leather seats. Along with that, This limousine van have comfortable reclining seats, many modern conveniences such as television, mini fridge, usb socket, power outlets, plug sockets, reading lights, high-end sound system. There is a separate partition between the cockpit and the passenger compartment. The distance between the seats is very comfortable, not crammed. Always meet the needs of luxury, comfort, spacious and convenience in travel.

This is a Thanh Hoa Sai Gon bus type that supports free pick-up / drop-off in the city of Thanh Hoa which is very convenient for tourists

Best Thanh Hoa Sai Gon limousine bus (limousine van) generally rated good with an average rating of 4.0/5 based on 80 reviews of passengers who have booked and used the limousine bus from Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon.

The cheapest bus ticket price for a limousine bus Sai Gon to Thanh Hoa is 950000VND of the bus company An Bình (Thái Bình). Depending on your seating position and the promotion, the fare for Thanh Hoa Sai Gon bus may be cheaper.

High-quality sleeper bus Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon: Comfortable, with the best price

Almost all the bus companies on the Thanh Hoa - Sai Gon own high-quality sleeper bus Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon. The sleeping bus Thanh Hoa Sai Gon is fully equipped with modern equipment to serve the traveling needs of passengers. Besides, Sai Gon to Thanh Hoa bus companies always focus on service quality, constantly improving to bring perfect experience to passengers

Bus companies from Thanh Hoa all own high-quality bed buses. Besides, passenger car companies Thanh Hoa Sai Gon always focus on service quality, constantly improving to bring perfect experience to passengers.

Best sleeper bus Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon generally rated medium with an average rating of 3.4/5 based on 569 reviews of passengers who have booked and used the sleeping bus Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon.

The cheapestbus ticket price for Sai Gon to Thanh Hoa sleeper bus is 850000VND of the bus company Huy Cường. Depending on your seating position and the promotion, the fare for Thanh Hoa to Sai Gon night bus may be cheaper.

Bus/Coache Fares and Schedules/Timetables From Sai Gon to Thanh Hoa
Bus companies	Timmings	Pick up locations	Drop off location	Bus ticket price	Rating
Hoang Long (Do)	10:30 - 21:45	QL1A	292 Đinh Bộ Lĩnh	1.100.000đ	4.4/5
Huy Cuong	16:30 - 16:30	Big C Thanh Hoá	Bến xe Ngã Tư Ga	850.000đ	4/5
An Binh (Thai Binh)	05:40 - 05:41	QL1A	Quốc Lộ 22	950.000đ	4/5
Hoang Long Hai Van	12:00 - 23:00	Đồng Lễ	Quốc Lộ 22	900.000đ	2.3/5
Thanh Nhan - Hai Phong	11:12 - 11:12		Quầy 54 và 76 Bến xe Miền Đông - đường Đinh Bộ Lĩnh	870.000đ	2.2/5

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